Pat Holden 
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Re: “Think we’re woke? Wake up!

Websites I find pin total annual crimes in Colorado Springs at roughly 17,500 - putting your terrible, unacceptable hate crime statistic of 11 per year at around 0.05% of all crimes in general.

My figure with ten minutes of googling may well be inaccurate or lacking in detail, but apparently it's more context than this author thought to include.

Posted by Pat Holden on 02/27/2019 at 4:25 PM

Re: “Think we’re woke? Wake up!

74 hate crimes? Sounds awful!...over 7 years. A little over 10 a year...out of how many crimes in general?

...suspected hate crimes. May I ask why you didn't say how many of those were confirmed or convicted hate crimes?

I can name one victim of a suspected hate crime, after all: Jussie Smollett.

Posted by Pat Holden on 02/27/2019 at 4:11 PM

Re: “Jussie Smollett charged with fabricating hate crime: ripples could affect at-risk populations

You're victims when it happens, you're victims when it doesn't happen.

Alissa, it really is hard to take you seriously when on the one hand it's "those ordinary people who have never even seen Smolletts show but understood at least a fraction of the fear he must have felt in the face of his attacker" and, on the other, it's nothing but "alleged alleged alleged" when it comes to recent developments that aren't in Smollett's favor. You're already pushing the idea that Fox anchors are going to brush off future cases as fake because of it; can you tell me next week's lottery numbers too?

Are you so incapable of taking just a few moments to say "You know, we probably shouldn't be jumping on that bandwagon quite so quickly"?

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Posted by Pat Holden on 02/24/2019 at 4:29 AM

Re: “A gas for liberty

"as a group of migrants near the San Ysidro border crossing stormed a fence"

This should be as far as we have to read, really. To be honest I'm surprised even this much got mentioned, but somehow it's okay to ignore it and pretend the story still belongs in the anti-Trump hysteria list.

You mean to say that a group of undocumented migrants tried to forcefully push their way through the border and Border Patrol used a non-lethal method of getting the mob to disperse? You even say yourself that the unaffiliated women and children were affected by the gas being carried downwind, meaning that it was an unintended consequence - even assuming the oft-mentioned photos weren't staged, about which there seems to be some speculation.

Yes, how very horrible of Trump to have that wind blowing in their direction. More than that, perhaps, how horrible that he didn't just let the group storm through the fences like they wanted. Or maybe they should've just been shot outright? Surely the women and children downwind wouldn't have been caught up in the situation then. You certainly don't seem interested in bringing forward any alternatives to deal with the people *storming the border* - just calling lots of people horrible for being concerned about it. Feel good about yourself yet?

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Posted by Pat Holden on 12/04/2018 at 6:58 PM

Re: “Kavanaugh said ‘what goes around comes around.’ The midterms could prove him right.

How courteous of Mr. Foster to demonstrate the progressive way of thinking: if someone doesn't agree with you, don't bother discovering their reasons or anything. Just insult them. They probably deserve to be disparaged and dismissed anyway.

Posted by Pat Holden on 10/19/2018 at 8:01 PM

Re: “Kavanaugh said ‘what goes around comes around.’ The midterms could prove him right.

Mr. Littwin is nothing if not passionate. I'd like to thank him and the Independent for helping me decide my voting this November.

I'll be voting exclusively Republican. I don't see how anyone with reasoning beyond "Dr. Ford said it so it must be gospel" can justify otherwise.

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Posted by Pat Holden on 10/11/2018 at 9:23 PM

Re: “Brett Kavanaugh is proof that elections matter

Laughable. Quick history lesson: Do you remember who the third member of the Allies' "Big 3" was along with Roosevelt and Churchill? Stalin, one of the worst mass-murderers in history. Fighting Nazis does not make you a good guy by default. By the same extension, Communist-centered Antifa is every bit as violent as the white supremacists and every bit as poorly justified. Their purported "anti-fascist" goals in fact border on fascist in their means as they target anyone they please.

You know things are bad politically when "political violence is bad" is decried as a supporting call for racists because the left decides it didn't want its darling Antifa angels being talked down at.

Posted by Pat Holden on 09/16/2018 at 3:26 PM

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