Pat Holden 
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Re: “Ron Stallworth on BlacKkKlansman, Trump, and our legacy of racism

"forced, unpaid labor by those convicted of a crime also known as slavery"

I'll appreciate that I'm unfamiliar with the specific legislation involved if Ms. Kabwasa will appreciate that there's a distinct difference between people sold into forced labor with no guarantee of release and those who *break the law* and, as part of the consequences for such, are made to contribute back to society through work with specific terms for their eventual freedom depending on the severity of their crime.

It seems downright dishonest to try to equate the two and it's shameful that the Indy lets this through. The other claims of alleged racism are nearly as bad.

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Posted by Pat Holden on 06/21/2018 at 10:01 PM

Re: “Law enforcement embraces Trump’s dangerous “both sides” narrative

"Who cares about a little property destruction? It's just capitalist property anyway and it's totally not as bad as the bad things those bad people over there are doing. Since it's not as bad the innocent darlings from inauguration day are just being oppressed by Nazi cops. I mean it doesn't even matter that they're specifically inhibiting cops from doing their job since all cops are Nazis anyway - I know that's a fact because of one guy's anecdotal story.

So it totally doesn't matter that the innocent black bloc angels broke some things a few times, the police shouldn't have thought that they could have broken more things in Charlottesville and instead only focused on the people I don't like and Trump's a meanie face for saying mean things about my friends too."

This is quickly becoming a bad joke, Mr. Woods - more so than it already was, anyway. Antifa will stop being equally bad when it stops acting like it, not because the alt-right is bad as well.

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Posted by Pat Holden on 02/22/2018 at 10:35 PM

Re: “Dozens of J20 protesters still face trial

Mr. Woods,

While you're busy pursuing your undying love for everything black bloc, please consider this question in the minds of those less enamored:

Those using black bloc tactics dress as they do explicitly to obscure their identities in an attempt to avoid focus or retaliation from law enforcement, among others - to purposefully blend in with the crowd of others doing likewise. Those using black bloc have been responsible for riots, assaults, property damage, and intimidation. As a result, it naturally becomes difficult for law enforcement to determine who exactly is responsible for illegal activity. Assuming they're not just going to allow laws to continue being broken without response, it makes sense that they'd try to detain those they determine responsible to their best judgement.

You know what else that deliberately consequence-skirting uniform does? It makes it hard to determine that you weren't involved in breaking the law. Ever think that's why it's taking so long to clear these people? Ever think that "This is fascist, I wasn't rioting, I was peacefully protesting" is a pretty weak defense when you can't verifiably be told apart from said rioters because you all look exactly the same at the time - especially when the reason you dress the same is because you're specifically trying to prevent police from doing their jobs?

If you don't obey the law, there are consequences to be faced if you are proven guilty. If they're having trouble going through the process of determining whether you're guilty because you deliberately make their jobs difficult doing so and yet your cohorts continue to break the law - violently, at times, over political conflicts - then there's solid ground for naming your organization a domestic terrorist group.

Not only is it self-defeating, it's absolutely hypocritical when writers like you turn around and try to pretend that they're just everyday schmoes upset because "The Man" is putting them down.

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Posted by Pat Holden on 01/25/2018 at 10:05 PM

Re: “In the age of #MeToo, a good man is hard to find

Before we start falling too hard into the despondency of where the "good guys" are, let's perform a bit of a thought experiment. Replace every instance of the words "man", "guy", or "male" with "Muslim" and modify this to be a piece on Muslim acts of terror.

"The more good Muslim or peaceful the accused, the harder the blow. It really may be ALL Muslims. Are there any good Muslims out there?"

Now see how much you enjoy this logic of yours.

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Posted by Pat Holden on 12/03/2017 at 8:24 AM

Re: “The real resistance

I'm sorry, is Mr. Woods telling "Resist" sympathizers that they are encouraged - even obliged - to adopt Antifa-like tactics? He certainly seems to like Anarchist-Communists enough seeing as this is apparently his third piece defending them. If this is the case I'd suggest they all live permanently and exclusively on his front lawn and the Independent find themselves a new columnist.

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Posted by Pat Holden on 11/26/2017 at 12:54 PM

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