Pat Holden 
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Re: “Kavanaugh said ‘what goes around comes around.’ The midterms could prove him right.

How courteous of Mr. Foster to demonstrate the progressive way of thinking: if someone doesn't agree with you, don't bother discovering their reasons or anything. Just insult them. They probably deserve to be disparaged and dismissed anyway.

Posted by Pat Holden on 10/19/2018 at 8:01 PM

Re: “Kavanaugh said ‘what goes around comes around.’ The midterms could prove him right.

Mr. Littwin is nothing if not passionate. I'd like to thank him and the Independent for helping me decide my voting this November.

I'll be voting exclusively Republican. I don't see how anyone with reasoning beyond "Dr. Ford said it so it must be gospel" can justify otherwise.

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Posted by Pat Holden on 10/11/2018 at 9:23 PM

Re: “Brett Kavanaugh is proof that elections matter

Laughable. Quick history lesson: Do you remember who the third member of the Allies' "Big 3" was along with Roosevelt and Churchill? Stalin, one of the worst mass-murderers in history. Fighting Nazis does not make you a good guy by default. By the same extension, Communist-centered Antifa is every bit as violent as the white supremacists and every bit as poorly justified. Their purported "anti-fascist" goals in fact border on fascist in their means as they target anyone they please.

You know things are bad politically when "political violence is bad" is decried as a supporting call for racists because the left decides it didn't want its darling Antifa angels being talked down at.

Posted by Pat Holden on 09/16/2018 at 3:26 PM

Re: “Brett Kavanaugh is proof that elections matter

How hard can that be saying Nazis are bad?

Did he seriously say that? Are we still seriously bringing up Charlottesville?

Here's a reminder: Trump did say Nazis are bad. He just didn't exclusively say that Nazis are bad like the left-wing kooks wanted him to and instead denounced political violence of any origin, including the Communist-centered Antifa. Difference being the left-wing kooks prefer to defend Antifa like they're some kind of white knight so they cried foul.

Then, a day or so later, he specifically condemned the white supremacists and neo-Nazis and the other Democrat-favored buzzwords...and the Democrats creamed him for not doing it soon enough. Apparently that's what passes for criticism these days and why I pretty much ignore anyone claiming Trump is a white supremacist.

Buzz off, Obama.

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Posted by Pat Holden on 09/13/2018 at 7:17 AM

Re: “Ron Stallworth on BlacKkKlansman, Trump, and our legacy of racism

"forced, unpaid labor by those convicted of a crime also known as slavery"

I'll appreciate that I'm unfamiliar with the specific legislation involved if Ms. Kabwasa will appreciate that there's a distinct difference between people sold into forced labor with no guarantee of release and those who *break the law* and, as part of the consequences for such, are made to contribute back to society through work with specific terms for their eventual freedom depending on the severity of their crime.

It seems downright dishonest to try to equate the two and it's shameful that the Indy lets this through. The other claims of alleged racism are nearly as bad.

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Posted by Pat Holden on 06/21/2018 at 10:01 PM

Re: “Law enforcement embraces Trump’s dangerous “both sides” narrative

"Who cares about a little property destruction? It's just capitalist property anyway and it's totally not as bad as the bad things those bad people over there are doing. Since it's not as bad the innocent darlings from inauguration day are just being oppressed by Nazi cops. I mean it doesn't even matter that they're specifically inhibiting cops from doing their job since all cops are Nazis anyway - I know that's a fact because of one guy's anecdotal story.

So it totally doesn't matter that the innocent black bloc angels broke some things a few times, the police shouldn't have thought that they could have broken more things in Charlottesville and instead only focused on the people I don't like and Trump's a meanie face for saying mean things about my friends too."

This is quickly becoming a bad joke, Mr. Woods - more so than it already was, anyway. Antifa will stop being equally bad when it stops acting like it, not because the alt-right is bad as well.

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Posted by Pat Holden on 02/22/2018 at 10:35 PM

Re: “Dozens of J20 protesters still face trial

Mr. Woods,

While you're busy pursuing your undying love for everything black bloc, please consider this question in the minds of those less enamored:

Those using black bloc tactics dress as they do explicitly to obscure their identities in an attempt to avoid focus or retaliation from law enforcement, among others - to purposefully blend in with the crowd of others doing likewise. Those using black bloc have been responsible for riots, assaults, property damage, and intimidation. As a result, it naturally becomes difficult for law enforcement to determine who exactly is responsible for illegal activity. Assuming they're not just going to allow laws to continue being broken without response, it makes sense that they'd try to detain those they determine responsible to their best judgement.

You know what else that deliberately consequence-skirting uniform does? It makes it hard to determine that you weren't involved in breaking the law. Ever think that's why it's taking so long to clear these people? Ever think that "This is fascist, I wasn't rioting, I was peacefully protesting" is a pretty weak defense when you can't verifiably be told apart from said rioters because you all look exactly the same at the time - especially when the reason you dress the same is because you're specifically trying to prevent police from doing their jobs?

If you don't obey the law, there are consequences to be faced if you are proven guilty. If they're having trouble going through the process of determining whether you're guilty because you deliberately make their jobs difficult doing so and yet your cohorts continue to break the law - violently, at times, over political conflicts - then there's solid ground for naming your organization a domestic terrorist group.

Not only is it self-defeating, it's absolutely hypocritical when writers like you turn around and try to pretend that they're just everyday schmoes upset because "The Man" is putting them down.

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Posted by Pat Holden on 01/25/2018 at 10:05 PM

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