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Re: “The expansion of Medicaid is changing trends at hospitals

OldCrank - you failed to mention who pays for Medicaid now that all these people are on it now - us. The people of the U.S. pay it.

The only conclusion I get from this article is that hospitals will be more profitable.

And I LOL'd, literally, when I saw the article author mention lowering health care costs due to the hospital now being paid more.

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Posted by rediranch on 06/24/2014 at 9:20 AM

Re: “16,000 signatures for Morse recall

@what- 7,178 Sigs were needed, a lot were gotten walking the districts neighborhood, while others were setup at corners, stores, etc. most of those sign and drives had district maps with them.

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Posted by rediranch on 06/05/2013 at 4:13 PM

Re: “16,000 signatures for Morse recall

Indy, if you have this tape, and whoever provided it to you can show you that it was a Morse Recall 'hired' petitioner, talking to someone from District 11 who was a registered voter, why have you not shared it to support your claim?

Or are you simply regurgitating something told to you by the Morse supporters without making sure it was true?

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Posted by rediranch on 06/04/2013 at 12:25 PM

Re: “As I recall ...

There are just so many things to argue about in this article.

"Loevy notes that Colorado's loose initiative laws, for instance, have long invited wealthy, out-of-state tinkerers to test the viability of a new law before trying to pass it around the country."

So it's OK for out of state money to push their interests in passing these laws, but it's not OK for out of state money to fight (the little the recall has gotten)?

So it's OK for out of state people to testify as to why Colorado should have these laws, but it's not OK for in-state people to testify as to why not? (Morse changed the rules in the senate for those who could testify, allowing out of state people to testify first when it should have only been in-state people).

Here's a quote from someone who was actually there waiting to testify:

I spent 12 hours at the Capitol yesterday. Opposition to these bills was huge. We easily had a 10 to 1 advantage in numbers. The few supporters of the bills quickly grew uncomfortable in the listening rooms and left but not before telling on us and sending in the hall monitors to hush us. But that did not stop patriots from being heard.

There were many who circled the Capitol honking their horns and it had it's effect. The honking could be heard in many places throughout the building but especially in the old Supreme Court Chambers. This infuriated Irene Aguilar and others who said they couldn't believe the hostility on the side of gun owners and how rude the honking was. They have not yet seen angry or hostile yet.

Conservatives brought expert witnesses with facts, logic, and common sense. The Liberals brought emotional stories and citizens of other states and countries. The committee meetings were filled with people who opposed the bills. One Senator even asked for a show of hands in favor of 1224 (magazine restrictions) and then opposed. Those apposing greatly outnumbered those supporting. So much so that it brought laughter from the crowd. But this didn't stop Democrat senators from going against the will of the people and passing the bill.

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Posted by rediranch on 05/29/2013 at 11:17 AM

Re: “As I recall ...

@Staci6, it is interesting that the survey on marijuana says that you think every voice is important and deserves to be heard.

Didn't the people speak by voting for it to be legal?

And isn't Morse working to repeal that law, basically saying that the majority were wrong to vote to make it legal?

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Posted by rediranch on 05/29/2013 at 11:08 AM

Re: “As I recall ...

Are you serious?

"If this is what we're going to do to hold public officials accountable, why not have complete direct democracy?"

YES! Isn't that what the U.S. is supposed to be about? People electing their representatives and people holding their representatives accountable?

Unfortunately I would not be surprised if someone read this story and still thought John Morse was right for Colorado.

Oh, and INDY - I am not a paid signature gatherer, neither is my wife, and neither are the 20 some collectors I've met the 5 times we've volunteered. My wife and I volunteered as much as we could to gather those signatures, walking for hours and hours.

Yes, there are SOME paid volunteers - partially paid by the donation I made to the recall group, but the majority are not.

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Posted by rediranch on 05/29/2013 at 11:02 AM

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