The Casualities' 

Sixty seconds with Jake Casualty

Indy: So is it true that when your singer Jorge's family moved from Ecuador to New York, he learned English by listening to punk records?

JC: Yeah, he started out with the Clash, although I couldn't tell you exactly which songs they were. For me, it was the Exploited's "Let's Start a War." And then it just kept getting deeper.

Indy: How did you guys meet up?

JC: We met up at a little club called ABC No Rio back in the early, early '90s. It was just very tight-knit. There weren't a lot of punk rockers, so when you saw 'em, it was like, "Hey, what's up, dude?" Like, "I'm a punk, you're a punk, let's be friends."

Indy: Your upcoming album [We Are All We Have] is pretty diverse, with a reggae song, some working-class anthems and a lot of backing vocals.

JC: You know what it is, it's, like, the seventh record and we wanted to make this one special and not just another total hardcore record — which it is in some ways, but it also touches on the metal end of things with "War is Business" and, like you mentioned, the reggae song "In the Tombs." Our fans will love it or hate it, and I think it'll get some new people into it.

Indy: On your blog, you mention some fans not liking the fact that you toured with Leftover Crack. Why would that be?

JC: It was just two totally different scenes. None of us were really squatters, and those guys were. We were getting e-mails like, "Why would you go on tour with this band?" They're extremely left-wing, and I think some people were kind of pissed and had this thing about them being anti-American. Which they're not. They're anti-authority. They have problems with authority, just like we do.

At the Black Sheep, Aug. 23.


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