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Re: “Sheriff Bill Elder calls Indy story "crap"

@Holmes Obviously, you are one of Bill's buddies, and that's fine for you.

You want us to "Faithfully perform the duties" we swore to do. That includes enforcing the law. Our boss has been breaking the law. There is a conflict for us to try to investigate our own boss, so we are asking for someone else to do it. I have a son and daughter to support, so I'm not going to risk my own job.

There is a difference between disrespecting your boss and blowing the whistle when he is crooked.

"Elder was elected by the people." Yeah... so was Trump.

Don't forget... The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

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Posted by Mike Randall on 11/14/2017 at 7:56 AM

Re: “Steve Garufi, a Colorado guy

This guy is not what he appears. Total narcissist and hypocrite, claiming to be a Christian spreading empathy. Anyone who opposes his opinion and view will be immediately deleted or rudely taken off his post. There are better people in the world with real issues to help mankind than this person of whiny persona.

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Posted by Bukkake on 11/13/2017 at 11:13 PM

Re: “Sheriff Bill Elder calls Indy story "crap"

"Faithfully perform the a Deputy Sheriff..." Ring a bell?? Elder was elected by the people. Quit your whining and abide by your oath. Stop making excuses and try to be a professional until such time as a new Sheriff is elected. So pathetic, everyone thinks that they are a victim! Seek new employment!!

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Posted by Holmes on 11/13/2017 at 6:48 PM

Re: “Sheriff Bill Elder calls Indy story "crap"

I'm not disrespecting my boss! If it's so bad, leave! If not, shut up and do your job! Otherwise, grow a pair, man up and professionally dissent. Nothing like a bunch of back stabbing cowards patrolling our streets and upholding the law! Wonderful integrity!

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Posted by Holmes on 11/13/2017 at 5:04 PM

Re: “Sheriff Bill Elder calls Indy story "crap"

@Holmes, In a state where deputies serve "at the pleasure of the Sheriff" you are not likely to see a lot of us willing to use our real names in public, and show up to work the next day only to find our cards don't unlock the door anymore. And your real name is "Holmes?"

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Posted by Mike Randall on 11/13/2017 at 4:52 PM

Re: “Sheriff Bill Elder calls Indy story "crap"

Such cowards! Use your real names! So pathetic!

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Posted by Holmes on 11/13/2017 at 4:45 PM

Re: “Ordway considers retail sales

When are they going to hiring for the jobs?

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Posted by Heather DeHerrerea on 11/13/2017 at 4:03 PM

Re: “Sheriff Bill Elder calls Indy story "crap"

Mike Randall ... I don't know who the heck you are (or maybe I do), but I have been waiting for your posts, so it's good to see you have finally posted!

I am SO eager to find out what's in that KRW report!

Pam ... where are we on that copy?

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Posted by Asher777 on 11/13/2017 at 2:54 PM

Re: “Sheriff Bill Elder calls Indy story "crap"

Oh and Bill, I forgot. Your address is not secret. It took me just five minutes to find numerous different websites that listed your home address in Gleneagle. It's on the Colorado Secretary of State's Office website, on some voter registration websites and on a few others.


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Posted by Mike Randall on 11/13/2017 at 12:54 PM

Re: “Sheriff Bill Elder calls Indy story "crap"

Hi'ya Bill,

One of your employees here, posting under my favorite fake name of course. Sorry about that (not really) but we all know how vindictive you are and how you threaten all of us that, if we aren't rowing the boat in the direction you want it, then you will throw us off the boat.

You swore me in when you took office. There was NO notary there when I signed the form. You weren't there either. Just some staff members who had us sign the form. I have no idea when you signed it. I guess we do know when it was notarized. How can you say the story is crap? If it is your claim that it was notarized at the time I signed it, then you are the filthy liar that you have been accused of being.

"Elder contended that Dietz and Mejia attended the swearing in ceremonies at Pikes Peak Center and elsewhere and, therefore, witnessed the signatures." I'm sure they were there, but neither of them had me sign the form. There were several other staff members helping with that."

"The Indy also asked Dietz about a photo produced by Elder at the news conference showing Dietz standing at a cart in what appears to be a Sheriff's Office conference room with a room full of officers. Elder said the photo proved Dietz witnessed all the signatures." That statement would be hilarious if not such a sad example of who you are. You swore us in and we signed the form over at the Pikes Peak Center, not in the Office of the Sheriff building. Another lie on your part.

"You're a journalist. I'm the Sheriff. I get my opinion, just like you do ... and my opinion is you're irresponsible."

And in our opinion, Bill, you are corrupt. People voted for you because they thought you were the "savior" to rescue us from Maketa (I didn't share in that opinion of you). You weren't. You are worse. Your "reign" is all about political favors and taking care of yourself and your friends.

I only hope and pray that the rest of the community will wake up to who you are and find us a Sheriff who we will be proud to work for. We have so many good and honest people who work here. None of them hold the rank of Commander or above. When will you release the most recent KRW audit? We all participated, and told the auditors just exactly who you are. Please release it!

And please resign. I have never been so embarrassed to work for this office.

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Posted by Mike Randall on 11/13/2017 at 12:47 PM

Re: “Sheriff Bill Elder calls Indy story "crap"

Nothing you mentioned is accurate! You're simply incorrect! EPSO is no different than any other public office across our nation!

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Posted by Holmes on 11/13/2017 at 6:44 AM

Re: “Former El Paso County Sheriff’s Office notary says top officials ordered falsifying of hundreds of oath affidavits

The affidavits don't have to be notarized. Good night, find another fake news story Indy! PLEASE move your Liberal agenda to Boulder! You are not welcome in Conservative Colorado Springs!

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Posted by Holmes on 11/12/2017 at 5:51 PM

Re: “Sheriff Bill Elder calls Indy story "crap"

Unfortunately for Holmes, his response to the and the Indy article is what is full of crap! Once again, all a turd like this can do is name call rather than argue facts which are not on his side. Perhaps if he pulled his head out of Elder's rectum and smelled some oxygen his thinking might be more objective. Mr. Holmes, please pick a single issue and argue with FACTS, if you can find any. Perhaps a couple of examples you might wish to argue further when you are re-oxygenated:
1) Elder wearing a pathfinder do not lie, only Elder did while stealing valor from those who REALLY served.
2) County Commissioners settling sexual harassment lawsuit at EPSO while other lawsuits are filed and in the pipeline...would like to see your argument against public records.
3) Cronyism and stealing promotions from those who EARNED them to give to those who PAID for them...again please argue those public records.
My guess is unless you are so in the tank we won't here from you for a while as you try to extricate yourself from your crappy position(s).

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Posted by TimberGhost on 11/12/2017 at 11:47 AM

Re: “Sheriff Bill Elder calls Indy story "crap"


"The Indy is crap with a Liberal agenda! Elder is absolutely correct!!"

Name calling is not a brilliant response. Your lack of effort is noted.

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Posted by Bill W. on 11/12/2017 at 10:38 AM

Re: “Police are ticketing far more homeless campers than they once did

"""Just fyi, I can't recall ever seeing a homeless person lugging around a shovel to "dig a hole""""

There are a lot of rocks in Colorado; and there is a lot of scree dirt and debris. Marion house, SRM, Dorchester Park, heck, even a sewer drain. Lots of options as compared to a pile beside the path, in the alley, on and on and on. If a person can't solve this simple stuff; a home (which usually means an electrical outlet, maybe a stove, a microwave, running water - may as well put a 911 call box on the wall; because that is a whole nother set of emergencies waiting to happen) probably is not the next step in evolution.

About the time a person needs assistance in the how and where to poop category; not sure where to go with helping them. Filling the five gallon bucket and dumping it in the creek is not the right option either. (That does become our drinking water; and is also used to water crops - care for a good old fashioned TB or Hepatitis outbreak? Salmonella anybody?)

Still no trash solutions - the age old concept of 'bring it in; carry it out'. Check back when that basic elementary school level item gets mastered. Because so far; these basic pre-teen tasks (and management items, for the more evolved homeless to perhaps mentor to the less than developed among them) are easily seen to be lacking.

Stop trashing our outdoor areas!

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Posted by Stain K. Hensley on 11/12/2017 at 10:05 AM

Re: “Sheriff Bill Elder calls Indy story "crap" is for cowards. All claims made have no credibility and are 99.9% innaccurate. If legitimate, names would be provided by the accusers. Laughable because the accusations are made by former, bitter employees who were fired with cause by the Sheriff!

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Posted by Holmes on 11/12/2017 at 9:41 AM

Re: “Sheriff Bill Elder calls Indy story "crap"

The Indy is crap with a Liberal agenda! Elder is absolutely correct!!

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Posted by Holmes on 11/11/2017 at 10:29 PM

Re: “The challenge of dance photography

I shot for the Colorado Ballet for over 20 years and the DenverCenter for Performing Arts for 20+ years and the Chicago City Ballet before that. 3000 shots (almost 1 per second) in an hour hour is pretty extreme. I would average about 550 shots per performance. I do agree with you that dance is like a fast moving sporting event with constantly changing light. I found the secret to capturing the best shots is listening to the music.

Posted by Terry Shapiro on 11/11/2017 at 2:00 PM

Re: “Sheriff Bill Elder calls Indy story "crap"

While we know that attacking the media is all the rage these days (especially among white male Republicans in high places) it doesnt sound like she published Elders home address..... rather he wrote it himself on a public form that was then obtained by the Independent. Sheriff Elder leaked his own home address, it probably wasnt a big secret anyway!
Everyone knows that notarized signatures are to be witnessed. Apparently County officials think they are above the law. Thank you, Pam Zubek, for continuing your long and distinguished career, informing us about the slimy underbelly of El Paso County politics. At least the shenanigans can be exposed, even if DA May will take no action against his buddies.
It doesnt sound like the new sheriff is an improvement over the old. Instead of attacking the press and ripping into a female reporter no less Elder needs to take responsibility for his own actions and clean up his act.

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Posted by prairie chix on 11/11/2017 at 10:10 AM

Re: “Police are ticketing far more homeless campers than they once did

Just fyi, I can't recall ever seeing a homeless person lugging around a shovel to "dig a hole"...shovels cost money, and if you're homeless, what money you have is probably going to go to more pertinent purchases like food, clothing or toiletries. So to suggest that they could dig a hole and bury it is kind of ludacris.

Mental health facilities need to be reinstated, and we need to be actively helping these people. It seems with the way policies are going we are just creating more homeless, and a lot of us are closer than we care to realize. It only takes one bad turn to end up on the street, and the numbers are growing Nationwide.

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Posted by Kate M Lamb on 11/11/2017 at 10:09 AM

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